Decoupling Efforts Highlight Foundational Differences Between WP and Drupal: JRastaban | NEDCamp

John Richards II (JRastaban)

The New England Drupal Camp 2022 is in this weekend. We asked between 5 to 8 questions to every speaker at the camp via email/slack. Some questions were common to all, and some were specific. We also gave them a choice not to answer any particular question. The Drop Times got written responses from most of the speakers. We are publishing those short conversations as a series. Here is the tenth interview.

John Richards II, known by his handle JRastaban, is a Developer Advocate at Pantheon. He is primarily a WordPress developer and also knows his way around Drupal. John will deliver two sessions, the first one being “The Magic of Collaboration” at Room: Maine (Gaige 203) from 11:00 pm to 11:45 pm and the second one being ‘5 Risk Mitigation Tips for Deploying Drupal at Scale.’ at Room: Rhode Island (Gaige 201) from 04:00 pm to 04:45 pm, this Saturday, November 19, 2022, as part of the New England Drupal Camp 2022, happening at Rhode Island College, Providence, RI. Let us read what JRastaban shares with us. 

TDT: [1] A brief introduction about yourself and your work in Drupal.  

John Richards II: I’m the Manager of Developer Advocacy at Pantheon, and I live in the greater St. Louis area with my wife and a clowder of cats. I started getting involved in community events and quickly became hooked by the amazing people. I switched careers so I could be more involved in Open Source communities. I am thankful for how Drupal is so intentionally inclusive and collaborative. Apart from work, I enjoy playing board games with friends, trying new food, and spending time reading with a cat curled in my lap.

TDT: [2] The community parlance is that ‘you come for the code but stay for the community.’ How did you first get introduced to the community?

John Richards II: It is so true! I remember being at my first Drupal event and being worried I wouldn’t fit in. Instead, incredible community members, including AmyJune, Mike Herschel, and Chris Teitzel, went out of their way to make me feel accepted and part of the amazing Drupal community. 

TDT: [3] Tell us a bit about what you present in the New England DrupalCamp 2022 and who should attend your session.  

John Richards II: I’m giving a talk on the Magic of Collaboration. Even including the infamous Drupal learning curve, one of the most challenging parts of building a website is stakeholders’ changing and conflicting needs. Collaboration is an essential web development skill. If you are looking for better ways to collaborate with your teammates and stakeholders, come check it out.

TDT: [4] After multiple extensions of Drupal 7 end-of-life, a final sundown is set for November 2023. It has been around for a decade and is the most popular Drupal distribution to date. Even after extending the deadline, there are a lot of websites that still run on Drupal 7. What is your advice for people staying on Drupal 7?

John Richards II: I’ll flip the script a bit and instead answer with my advice for those of us who have moved past D7. D7 folks are facing hard choices and are certainly looking at alternatives, hopefully, open-source ones like Backdrop. 

  • How do we show them that Drupal is still the best path for them going forward? 
  • What can be done to make it easier for D7 developers to stay in the Drupal community? 

There isn’t a great solution yet, but to make this happen, there need to be open conversations instead of sweeping the problem under the rug. I’m hopeful that the recent embracing of the Backdrop community at events like DCColorado and BADCamp are signs that we are ready to engage instead of ignoring the problem. 

To be clear, while Backdrop is fine, I doubt it is the right solution for most teams. However, including as many perspectives as possible is needed to understand how to address the concerns, D7 developers have with moving forward.

TDT: [5] Your profile says you are a developer advocate at Pantheon. The job title interests us. What is the role of a developer advocate? 

John Richards II: It’s a “for developers, by developers” role focused on enabling developer success. I really appreciate that the role gives the opportunity to advocate for developers in two directions. I’m certainly an advocate for my company, and that means working to make developers on Pantheon as successful as possible through education and resources. Perhaps more importantly, the second way I advocate is by advocating on behalf of developers. For me, hearing that something is wrong is actually a gift because I can take that feedback to the team so the right people can work to get the problem fixed or the feature added to the roadmap.  

TDT: [6] As someone with vast experience in WordPress but who also knows Drupal, how do you see these two open-source CMSs side-by-side? What about the DXP capabilities provided by either of the platforms?  

John Richards II: It’s been very interesting seeing some of the biggest differences start to fade away. WordPress decided to break some backward compatibility to adopt newer technology, while Drupal worked to make upgrading smoother to give easier ways for community members to stay current. 

Lately, I have been involved in Pantheon’s decoupled efforts, and it has highlighted some foundational differences. I found it easier to get WordPress spun up and configured to talk to a Next.js site than it is with Drupal. However, once I started wanting to extend beyond default functionality, the Drupal feature set started bringing so much value. 

For instance, Drupal’s Cache API makes server-side rendering so much easier, and trying to back something equivalent on the WordPress side is proving to be very difficult. 

Join John Richards II, aka JRastaban, at NEDCamp 2022 for the sessions, ‘The Magic of Collaboration’ in Room: Maine (Gaige 203), from 11:00 am to 11:45 am and ‘5 Risk Mitigation Tips for Deploying Drupal at Scale’ from 04:00 pm to 04:45 pm on Saturday, November 19, 2022, at Rhode Island College, Providence, RI. Click here to Register.

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